Dr. Zuhdi Jasser Sits Down with Secure Freedom Radio

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Frank Gaffney: A man I believe really has distinguished himself for his courage, his vision, and particularly his willingness to sound the alarm about what is happening within in his faith community, namely the Islamic faith, about the jihad, stealthy and violent, in every platform he can find including earlier today on Fox News. He is our first guest, he is Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, a physician by training, a former naval officer, a man who has founded and is the President of a marvelous organization, The American Islamic Forum for Democracy. A leader in the fight against Islamism, the stealth jihad most especially, within the Muslim community here in the United States, and an exponent for freedom around the world. Dr. Jasser, welcome back its good to have you with us sir.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser: It’s great to be with you Frank. Thanks for having me on.

FG: Always a pleasure. You were speaking on Fox earlier today about something that is it seems to me, just another example of what the civilization jihadists of the Muslim Brotherhood are up to. A mosque being built with taxpayer money in the airport in Orlando, what’s going on with that?

ZJ: It’s just fascinating, that you know sort of what’s driving this appears to be Orlando has now a contract with Emirates Airlines, that is going to have a direct flight to Dubai from Orlando, and it seems they are going to coincide the beginning of that direct flight with the opening of what they are calling a recitation room, but actually is for Muslims only. As you know as an American and also somebody who focuses on anti-Islamism, I look at a relatively small airport, in the scheme of things, that doesn’t have like JFK a place for Catholic worship, Protestant, Jewish worship, but all they had was an interfaith place and now they are going to have a Muslim place of worship. They’re not calling it a mosque, but it’s close to it, being funded to the tune of $250,000 of taxpayer money in Florida just to appease the Emirates airlines. Now they’ll call it a business decision, and who’d they interview? They interviewed Imam Musri, who is a Muslim Brotherhood advocate, has raised money for Hamas and others, and said now is the time for Muslims to realize we have rights and the victimization post 9/11 is going away. I mean this should show that airport the harm they’re doing. You know I travel a lot and I’ve used prayer halls in airports. I’m not saying they shouldn’t exist, but they should exist equal for all faiths, interfaith facilities and not just for Muslims.

FG: I guess what make this so important, and your voice so valued in these matters Dr. Jasser, is that you appreciate the kind of incremental stratagem that is being applied here. One of the other places we’re watching this take place is of course in mosques around the United States. Not in airports necessarily but in other parts of the country, with an organization known as The North American Islamic Trust, or NAIT, a Muslim Brotherhood tied organization, buying up mosque’s mortgages, or creating them in the first instance. What role is NAIT playing, and these mosques under its control, in well, that same Islamic supremacist agenda here in our country?

ZJ: Yeah, I think it’s interesting. You know if you ask them, and when they get confronted, the Muslim Brotherhood Islamists will say ‘oh we had nothing to do with them they just sort of hold title and deed’, and then you look at the books and apparently upwards of thirty to forty percent of mosques in America, give their deed over to the North American Islamic Trust. And not only is their origin from Muslim Brotherhood origin with MSA and others of that tree that was planted in the 50s and now controls so many of the mosques. But what it does is it centralizes the authority and control, so that they can affiliate themselves with Islamist ideologues around the country, and those anti-Isalmists could never really get a voice in these mosques because the deed and trust, the economic flow if you will, the flow of money is through Islamists ideological organizations, that as we saw in the Holy Land Foundation trial and other expose that a lot of these sympathetic Islamists organizations travel in the same streams. So thus that’s the problem with it, its not like NAIT is staying in Indianapolis or wherever they are headquartered and controlling the stream directly, but it is certainly as we see politically or religiously common sources non-different than leftist organizations that will fund common organizations, Islamist organizations will fund and control these common ideologues and mosques, all over the country, in D.C., and here in Phoenix and elsewhere.

FG: I’m told that the funding for NAIT is actually a line item in the Muslim World League, out of the government’s of Saudi Arabia’s budget interestingly enough, and the numbers may be far higher than forty percent Zuhdi, I’ve heard numbers as high as eighty percent of the mosques around the United States now have NAIT controlling both their mortgages, their financing, and obviously their activities. Let me ask you about something else, you mentioned the Holy Land Foundation trial. One of the most important things to come out of that, aside from the conviction of five co-conspirators for material support for Hamas, a terrorist origination. As you know Zuhdi Jasser was something called, the Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal of the Group in North America. It has been described as a kind of, well strategic plan of the Muslim Brotherhood for quote, ‘destroying Western civilization from within by their hands’, meaning ours in the hands of the believers, so that God’s religion is made victorious for all other religions. To the extent that this has been a very important insight into what the Muslim Brotherhood is about. An effort is being made recently by a fellow by the name of David Schipler, a former New York Times Journalist to essentially try to dismiss this document, both its authentic character and also its import. You’ve studied closely the Brotherhood and what its up to from inside the Muslim community. Do you believe that this is a genuine reflection of its ambitions and a document we should take very much to heart?

ZJ: You know I can’t tell you how frustrating it is to read, not only did government documents go uncontested through years, of not only the case but then appeal, and finally victory and conviction of those board members of the Holy Land Foundation. But that document has withstood tons of connections and verifications that it is real, and then ideologically anyone who understand Sayyid Qutb, understands Hasan al-Banan’s mission to the Muslim Brotherhood, and then Malwdudi through the Indo-Pakistani connection and all these Islamist ideologues knows that this is what they do. They see freedom and liberty as an anathema to the Islamist States, the Sharia State is you will, and they will try to influence the West to prevent our foreign policy from allowing their ascendancy and their neo-caliphate, otherwise known as the OIC, and its so important for our anti-jihadist groups to come together and to continue. You know when we did that documentary “The Third Jihad”, that was based on the Explanatory Memorandum; we were castigated by the liberal media, the New York Times repeatedly dismissed it as Islamophobic as they call it, and ignored the fact it was narrated by me, a devout Muslim, and now a few years goes by, it still stands, and millions and millions have seen that documentary, the facts have never been disputed, and yet now Schipler comes on and is trying to re-write history. And if you look this is happening in America where they exploit the fact that Americans are ignorant about Islamism, you go to countries like Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, OIC countries, and Muslims by the millions are struggling to defeat Islamism, and no one doubts what the mission of the Brotherhood is as the Egyptians went through the streets and defeat it. So it’s so bizarre that in the land of freedom where we should understand this, we are re-writing history by Islamist propaganda aided by Schipler and the New York Times. While we sit back and look at the Islamists that are actually being pushed back in Muslim majority countries in this struggle for modernity.

FG: It is incredible, but for your efforts Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, I’d think we’d be a lot further down the tubes than we are. Dr. Jasser is also a founder of the American Islamic Leadership Coalition, a very important umbrella group of anti Islamists Muslims who are doing really I believe the Lord’s work. You are also of course the driving force behind a terrific organization in Phoenix, American Islamic Forum for Democracy. I hope people will look for it at IAFdemocracy.org, check it out support Dr. Jasser’s important work. We ran out of time Zuhdi to talk about your recent travels in East Asia. I hope you will come back to us again soon to talk about what is happening with the Islamists there, and what it portends for our interest in the region and beyond. Keep up the great work my friend and thank you for finding a few minutes with us to talk about it today.