Americans need to put this at the front of their daily thought: John Mills on battling CCP threat

In this special episode, we sat down with John Mills—retired colonel, former director of cybersecurity at the Defense Department, senior fellow with the Center for Security Policy, and part of the Spectrum Consulting Group. We also hear from Casey Fleming, CEO of BlackOps Partners. They talk about the growing importance of the cyber realm in modern warfare, what China might be learning from Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and what this means for Taiwan and the United States going forward.

On the China threat, Mills said Americans “need to put this … at the front of their daily thought. This is a battle. It is a daily battle. Everything going around, most Americans are just trying to live their lives, go to church, take care of their families, provide for their families. But you got to realize almost every American knows somebody who has been affected by the opioid threat. Okay, where’s that opioid threat coming from? It’s coming from China. Fentanyl is almost 100 percent a product from the CCP. Almost every American knows somebody in the bondage of opioid addiction. Right there. We are on the frontline, the American citizen is on the front line against the struggle against China, just by us having to face the opioid threat.”

Fleming said “the level and degree of infiltration and subversion is beyond most people’s comprehension. I’ve been doing this a long time and it’s a stretch for me to accept it. But I see it all day, every day, seven days a week. Most people have no idea. And it’s kind of like ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ but the level that we are infiltrated in the United States and in the UK and Canada and Australia, and Western civilizations would absolutely blow your audience’s mind.”

He adds, “You’re seeing that all these different methods—economic warfare, telecommunications warfare, religious warfare, drug warfare—all these types of things are meant to weaken the adversary before a conventional ground war.”